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Newsvine Wed Dec 31,1969 4:00PM PST

Mon Jul 30, 2007 10:21 PM EDT
technology, newsvine, glitch, 12-31-69
By Johnny Yuma

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Brian Ford

There was definitely a glitch a few hours ago -- I noticed that the front page was loading to an error stating that the intended page couldn't be found. It only did it for a few seconds, though. (Just long enough for me to bother the staff with a bug report and then notice it had resolved itself.)

  • 3 votes
Reply#1 - Mon Jul 30, 2007 10:49 PM EDT
spiffie

For a little while comments were reporting erratically, too. I noticed on the Leaderboard that it showed epiphany with 0 comments received for the week. Then, I also noticed that on my column under "Latest comments" none were listed. I fired off two bug reports, and Tom responded to me that he was working on it. Just another snafu, I guess.

  • 3 votes
#1.1 - Mon Jul 30, 2007 10:57 PM EDT
Johnny Yuma

I got that when I clicked on a front page link.

The date caught my eye. It seemed to be fixed in a few minutes.

  • 2 votes
#1.2 - Mon Jul 30, 2007 11:32 PM EDT
spiffie

Here's a fun one. Next time you get a friends request, after you accept, check out how many friends it says it's showing. On my column it always says "Now showing first NaN friends," which I find pretty funny. It may only happen if you have more than 50 friends, though. (Or maybe it only happens to me.)

  • 4 votes
#1.3 - Mon Jul 30, 2007 11:35 PM EDT
ShaunV

I see Nan, too, sometimes.

  • 3 votes
#1.4 - Tue Jul 31, 2007 9:35 AM EDT
tigerblade

I see dead people. Is that the same thing?

    #1.5 - Tue Jul 31, 2007 10:34 PM EDT
    ShaunV

    Maybe. ;)

    • 1 vote
    #1.6 - Wed Aug 1, 2007 10:10 AM EDT
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    Darlene1005

    I noticed it. That is why I looked at this article.
    I was trying to save an article and lost it. I looked up and saw Wed Dec 31,1969 4:00PM PST and thought I had lost my mind. I closed everything out, and came back a few minutes later. Everything was up, but my article was long gone. It was about Coach Skip Prosser--I want link it. If you want to look at it, please go to my column. I sure am glad I saved what I had written on Word.

    • 4 votes
    Reply#2 - Tue Jul 31, 2007 12:05 AM EDT
    ShaunV

    I read that article, Darlene. It is likely still in the system.

    • 3 votes
    #2.1 - Tue Jul 31, 2007 9:34 AM EDT
    Darlene1005

    I had to re-do it Shaun and put it back on Newsvine. I had it saved on my computer, so it did not take me long to put it back.

    • 3 votes
    #2.2 - Tue Jul 31, 2007 10:18 AM EDT
    ShaunV

    Glad you saved it to your hard drive, first.

    • 2 votes
    #2.3 - Tue Jul 31, 2007 10:40 AM EDT
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    Dan Hallo, aka, Zoilus

    It was Mr. Peabody, recalibrating the Way-Back Machine for 1969.

    • 6 votes
    Reply#3 - Tue Jul 31, 2007 12:29 AM EDT
    ShaunV

    I have seen that page a number of times. I always assume it it a temporary glitch.

    Still, the 1969 date is odd for various reasons.

    • 3 votes
    Reply#4 - Tue Jul 31, 2007 9:33 AM EDT
    Matt Schwartz

    As a programmer I see Dec 31,1969 on computers all the time. It's the Unix epoch (Jan 1, 1970 00:00 Zulu) with the time zone calculated. Unix timestamps are the number of seconds since the Unix epoch. So if a time stamp is 0 and displayed in local time you see Dec 31, 1969. It's very common for computer systems to use Unix timestamps because they're convenient to calculate and store, and they eliminate any time zone issues until the value is actually displayed.

    • 4 votes
    Reply#5 - Tue Jul 31, 2007 10:28 AM EDT
    ShaunV

    Thanks for the information, Matt.

    • 3 votes
    #5.1 - Tue Jul 31, 2007 10:40 AM EDT
    Darlene1005

    Did that make any sense to you?

    • 3 votes
    #5.2 - Tue Jul 31, 2007 11:04 AM EDT
    Johnny Yuma

    Thanks Matt

    I do not understand it, but at least I know what it is now.

    • 1 vote
    #5.3 - Tue Jul 31, 2007 11:10 AM EDT
    Matt Schwartz

    To rephrase in English, where you saw Dec 31,1969 there was simply a 0 behind the scenes.

    Based on the screen shot I'm guessing the web server had trouble reading data, so it displayed a page with effectively no values. When you display a time stamp with a 0 value in local time, you get Dec 31, 1969.

    • 2 votes
    #5.4 - Tue Jul 31, 2007 11:27 AM EDT
    Darlene1005

    Thank you Matt

    • 3 votes
    #5.5 - Tue Jul 31, 2007 11:37 AM EDT
    ShaunV

    Did that make any sense to you?

    Alas, Darlene it did....and that in itself is scary. :)

    I heard about this issue prior, just didn't make the connection.

    • 3 votes
    #5.6 - Tue Jul 31, 2007 3:54 PM EDT
    Darlene1005

    I am going to you Shaun, the next time I need to reformat my hard drive...:-)

    Just kidding!
    Actually, I have never had to do that. My son does that when he messes up his computer.

    • 3 votes
    #5.7 - Tue Jul 31, 2007 9:04 PM EDT
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    Brandon Kiser

    I noticed that too. Weird how things like that happen.

    • 4 votes
    Reply#6 - Tue Jul 31, 2007 10:46 AM EDT
    Sebastiaan

    Wow, I actually missed that, the update to Firefox 2.0.0.6 must have removed the tigerprint without me noticing it in the first place!

    ;-)

    • 2 votes
    Reply#7 - Tue Jul 31, 2007 4:38 PM EDT
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